Showing posts with label Religion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Religion. Show all posts

Saturday, January 8, 2011

Science and religion... are they compatible?

Some friends of mine in the wonderful Twittersphere were, this morning, agreeing that religion and science are fundamentally incompatible, but I was not so sure. It's obvious that religion and science sit uneasily side-by-side, but are they truly incompatible? What does this actually mean anyway?

First, let's be clear what we are discussing. By "religion", do we mean some specific religion or religions; or religion itself, the idea that there are powers beyond the physical, measurable world? Do we mean the overarching religious "world-view", whereby the non-physical realm is the ultimate explanation for the physical? Or if we are considering specific religions, then which religions?; and are we thinking of canonical scripture, or lay conceptions, or sophisticated theological theory?

As for "science", that could refer to the scientific enterprise, the scientific method, or merely the current (and contingent) body of scientific theory. It might mean the strictly meta-scientific philosophy known as Occam's Razor. Or it might mean some notional scientific "world-view", whereby everything important is presumed to be observable and measurable, and anything which is not is therefore irrelevant or even non-existent.

Surely, given all these possibilities, the bald claim "religion and science are incompatible" is imprecise at best, and simplistic at worst.

If we are talking about the religious world-view and the scientific world-view, then I would have to agree that these are incompatible. These cannot be reconciled, but that is the nature of world-views - they are all-encompassing, and there is no room for more than one. You subscribe to one or the other, or neither.

And then, if we are talking about the literal reality of the Christian Creation story on one hand, and the most recent scientific cosmological theories on the other, then those too are obviously incompatible.

It can also be argued that a belief in an interventionist god would be incompatible the scientific enterprise, as science is predicated on the assumption that the physical universe follows rules, whereas an interventionist god implies that the rules can be broken ad hoc. I have sympathy for this position, but note that the degree to which science would be undermined is proportional to the frequency with which gods intervene.

But if we are talking about the more general religious belief that the universe is the creation of a god or gods, then this position clearly does not conflict with any scientific theory, and can never conflict with any observation that can be made in the physical world. Gods are outside the physical realm and are thus outside the conceivable knowledge of science. If one wishes to dismiss gods on the basis that they are non-scientific, then that dismissal is philosophical, rather than scientific.

In the end, I contend that science and religion are fundamentally "non-overlapping". Science has no purview over the non-physical universe. Religion is sometimes said to have gross effects in the physical world, and when it does, it finds itself in conflict with science. But a minimal religion, in which gods create the universe, and then largely stand aloof, does not have to overlap with the domain of science. This is, indeed, the position towards which religion is largely being forced to retreat by the successes of science. And yet religion will only ever need to retreat so far, and never further, because science has no sway in the non-physical universe.

So... religion and science.... are they compatible? I don't want to be evasive, but the answer depends entirely on what, precisely, is meant by the question. And that is really the best I can do.


Wednesday, December 15, 2010

A reading and listening list for believers and unbelievers

I've been talking with friends on Twitter lately, where one of the hot topics is always religion. Some of the conversation gets pretty heated and, although I try to avoid that, people obviously have very strong feelings on the subject, but I try to remember that "Your virtue is not measured by what you believe, but by what you do."

Every now and then, someone mentions some book, article or podcast that they feel illuminates the playing field, so I propose to keep a consolidated list of these here, for the use of anyone interested.

I invite you all to add reading/listening/viewing suggestions in the comments below, and I will continue to integrate all of these into this list.

Let me get things started:

  • C.S Lewis' Narnia series (esp The Magician's Nephew; The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe; The Last Battle). Much-loved children's fantasy, re-telling the great Christian story.
  • Ted Dekker's Circle Trilogy (Black; Red; White). A recent "young persons' fantasy" also re-imagining the Christian tale.
  • Hoftstadter and Dennett (eds), The Mind's I. A wonderful collection of philosophical essays and allegories on the subject of self and soul. An excellent and non-intimidating introduction to the philosophy of mind, and cognitive science.
  • The radio show and podcast This American Life, episode 290: "Godless America" A wonderful episode of a wonderful series.
  • White Wine In The Sun, a cheeky but lovely description of secular Christmas in Australia. Written by Tim Minchin, sung by Kate Miller-Heidke.
  • The Worthing Saga by Orson Scott Card, a very famous, and Mormon, science fiction writer. A sci-fi examination of god and suffering.
  • Hell is the Absence of God, a short story by Ted Chiang.
  • Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life, a film of sketches with a theme.
  • Monty Python's The Life Of Brian, classic film about Jesus Christ's neighbour. Touhces on religion.
  • Ian McEwan’s novel Enduring Love, about a man of Science; a rational thinker, perhaps to the point of naivety and even ultimately to his own detriment.
  • Dante Alighieri's The Divine Comedy. A guided tour through hell, limbo and heaven, in wondrous poetry.
  • John Milton's Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained, poetic retelling of the great Christian story.
  • Roger Penrose' the Emperor's New Mind.
  • Bill Bryson's A Brief History Of Nearly Everything.
  • Steven Pinker's How the Mind Works.
  • The Nature of Personal Reality, Jane Roberts
  • John Gribbin's In Search of Schrodinger's Cat
  • A User's Guide To the Universe by Dave Goldberg and Jeff Blomquist
  • The End of Time by Julian Barbour
  • Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin
  • The Universe In A Nutshell by Stephen Hawking
  • Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. The anti-Narnia?
  • Kanye West's song Jesus Walks.
  • God Actually by Roy Williams. A pro-faith book that raised some eyebrows among the believers too.
  • Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis. The great children's author is also the best known Christian "apologist".
  • Faith of Millions: the credentials of the Catholic religion by John A. O'Brien.
  • The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning. Former Catholic priest retells the gospel.
  • John Irving's A Prayer For Own Meany. Irving's greatest novel, a brilliant read, with faith as its central theme. And armadillos.
  • The Sins of Scripture: Exposing the Bible's Texts of Hate to Reveal the God of Love by Bishop John Shelby Spong. The title says it all.
  • John Lennon's song God, which is about his loss of faith and his discovery of hope. A mild, non-confrontational, personal tale, that causes surprising levels of heat in the Twitterverse.
  • John Safran suggests Picture Stories From The Bible. Thanks, John.
  • Ben Pobjie's wonderful article Atheist Myths Debunked.

So, there... that's my starting list. I hope to get recommendations for Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, etc, but I also want to see the faith side putting its very best foot forward.

Please add your (polite) suggestions in the blog comments
Thank you very much,
Lee.


Saturday, December 4, 2010

Taking the piss - it's the Australian way

An American friend asked what "taking the piss" means. As a demonstration, here I am using "taking the piss" in the letters pages of a respectable Australian broadsheet newpaper, talking about the 2008 Catholic "World Youth Day"...

Paul Borg and Barry Oakley (Letters, July 8) are worried about the various reactions to World Youth Day. The Prime Minister wants us to show respect to the Pope. I don't know what the Catholic Church and the politicians were thinking when they decided Sydney would be a great place for this event, but they should have realised Australians are not an inherently respectful people. There is so much fun to be poked at this church, this religion, this Government, this event.

How can anyone seriously expect Australians to resist the temptation? We're not whingeing, we're not complaining; we are simply taking the piss. Childish, sure, but it's better than most of the alternative responses.

Lee Borkman
9th July 2008

Sunday, November 28, 2010

Thank God for Nigel!

This was written in response to an earlier letter by the Reverend Nigel Fortescue of Naremburn, Australia, who claimed that, without religion, human beings could not know right from wrong.

We must all be grateful for the courageous work of Reverend Fortescue among
the sad and dangerous peoples of Naremburn (Letters, Nov 26). Thanks to
painstaking sermons and a dogged insistence on the literal truth of God's
word, his flock has reluctantly come to accept that they should be nice to
each other and (a much more difficult concept) that murdering people is
wrong. Though they may also, in the course of their lessons, learn to be
bigoted and narrow-minded, that is surely small price to pay: nothing else
can keep these savages in check.

Keep up the good work, Nigel.

Lee Borkman
27th November 2005